Sneijder!!!!or nasri?????!!!!..like it..

Wesley is what we need to win champions league but don't worry premier number 20 in the bag already . Chicarito golden boot

Barton? Hahahahaha!!

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So we are going to buy players that will bridge the gap between us and Barcelona.... Young and Jones.. hardly improved the squad, I can't help but think we only bought Young because Liverpool were interested. We have the weakest midfield in the top 5 teams and if we don't splash some cash in the right area (midfield) we won't even win the Carling cup

I hope it is sneidjer as he is world class and him and van der vaart are very similar players and look how v.d.vaart has done in his first season in the premier league? Apparently united will only pay him £200,000 but Nike who sponsors united and sneidjer will give him 40% image rights and increase his pay to £250,000 for him to come to united so fingers crossed.

lol, i bet fergie wasn't happy when he heard gill coming out with this

Sneijder or danny miguel plz plz plz

@Marc - yes we won the 19th , but did we win it the way we wanted to , we hardly played attractive football , if it wasnt for nani , chica and the brilliance of rooney , we would have won nothing ! face the fact mate , our midfield is weak , even tottenham have a better 1st team midfielders than us !!!
we desperately need 2 cm in our team , and that too quality one who can straightly get into the fist team ! (schweinsteiger and de rossi , my preferance)

if and it's a big if nasri comes to ot it will b on a free next season but I can see us getting snijnder because the delay has been sorting out payment and personal terms I do believe we will get him just got to wait till all parties agree the right terms for all involved utd r the only team he will leave inter for they want the best price they can get we want best deal we can get the less publicity the less chance someone like city or chelski will put in a bid just to put the price up just my opinion lv utd

wll said sal19 to many critics on here think possertive we have some great young players who have come to ot this year plus some outstanding talent in the reservers and youth team saf makes the odd poor signing kleberson dejemba but overall his record is brilliant just look at Hernandez and smalling who else would have picked up on them I know he has an army of scouts but his is the final word lv utd

Hey guys! I'm signing for City today for £35m.

I'm looking forward to seeing who you guys sign.

It's going to be an interesting battle for the title this year!

Its funny how some idiots who don't have anything better to say come up with some stupid remakes. City, liverp, Ars, chels who ever.. Don't forget we are the champions, the best in england. You can buy whoever u want for how ever much you want it doestnt concern us. We will still be at the top. WE ARE UNITED!! The best you will face. So keep buying city ypu have a long way to go..

@SAL 19 - Since you LOL'd without even thinking here's to remind you something..... In the group stage we faced Valencia,Rangers and Bursaspor , and we came through that at the top , we had to as they r not that of a big teams. After that we beat Marseille (not big) , Chelsea (we always face them) and Schalke (Can Barely win Bundesliga) then in our biggest test of the tournament we lost to Barcelona ! and u say that mid field took us in the final and then totally outplayed by barca and we lost , and ur proud of that...be realistic , kid and dont lol my comments.
I am a fuckin die-hard man united fan and i will always be , but i dont look away from facts and truth , and the truth is our midfield needs recruitment and i am standing by what i say...dont u get it ! i am satisfied by our defence and strikers , but lets face it , the midfield is really weak , as a united fan and for the best of my team , i want it to be sorted out , thats what i see. and i am not like asking for us to spend like "man shite" all i ask is two quality midfielders so that we won't get trounced again in europe. get it !

To true red u if it wasn't for nani chicarito and Rooney r u 4gettin berbatov he got 20 goals plus everybody seems to 4get bout him it was an insult he was left outa champ lge final he deserved to b on bench he needs playin time class player

Agree with the point about us not being able to match Barca no matter whether we buy a centre midfielder or not. They're way ahead and would need to have a stinker for us to beat them regardless.

However, it's as clear as day that we are weak in that area and even to give ourselves a better chance of winning number 20 we should be investing in one or two new CM's. Whether that be a defensive or an attacking player (ideally one of each) we need at least one to improve the quality now that Scholes and Hargo have gone.

Sneijder, Modric, Nasri, De Rossi... I don't care who it is as long as we get someone. We need to improve on what we have in the squad it's as simple as that.

Why Sneijder?

Because we need a top class centre midfielder to boost our chances of winning trophies next season.

Yes he'd be expensive and others may be more suited to our needs (Modric, De Rossi) but if we sign Sneijder he would improve the team in the centre of the park.

Put it this way, I'd rather him than no-one.

Capiche?

Re: True Red

Nothing to do with not facing facts. All I'm saying is that Wesley Sneijder is not a centre midfielder. All I'm saying is that Barcelona had an easier run to the final in response to those who said ours was easy.

Do you call FC Copenhagen, Rubin Kazan, and Panathinaikos tough? Valencia are better than all 3 of those. Do you think Arsenal (4th) are better than Marseille (!st) (2nd)? Do you think Shakhtar Donetsk are better than Chelsea? Yes, Real Madrid are tougher than Schalke 04, but Schalke had just demolished the defending champions in the previous round with an aggregate score of 7-3, including 5 at the San Siro!

I have faced the fact that we need a centre midfielder, I've also faced the fact that Wesley Sneijder isn't a centre midfielder.

Not Marc! Oh dear.

@Billy
Nothing to do with how barca came in the final , but its all gotta do with what barca did us in the final.
And I Think that Sneijder is an ACM , so he will perfectly fit in Utd but i'd rather see Bastian Scweinsteiger (which is very unlikely)...and De Rossi (He's a must too) !

Who the fuck deleted my earlier post replied to Billy Mcneal....FFS , if you cant face the facts then go and hide somewhere rather than deleting the post of someone who has the balls to say it , i thought we were all united but i guess the admin of this fuckin blog is a complete ass hole. the one who deleted my post is a fuck fag and thats the fact fucker !
GO AND DELETE THIS AS WELL !

Sneijder !!!!!!!!!

Hell yeah True Red! They delete my posts sometimes too. So much for freedom of speech.

I get the gist - you're talking CRAP again! Those generalisations you just made about "most fans" were disgraceful. I didn't believe any of those things, so don't you dare tar me with that brush.

Oh, and my apologies - Marseille won the Champions League 18 years ago, not 20. Phew, we were lucky to get past those giants of the modern game! Not to mention Rangers, Bursaspor and Schalke! Good lord, it was like a who's who of Europe's greatest teams!

Come on mate, I believe in Fergie and if Fergie signs Wesley Sneijder to play in CM then I'd have thought it's because he thinks Wes is the man we need. He might flop, he might not but if SAF brings him in then who are we to argue.

It's clear we're sniffing around him and if we get him he's gonna be playing centre mid. With all due respect, Fergie's opinion of a players abilities to play a role in the team is one I would take over yours.

10 years ago, Sir Alex bought a heralded as a world class midfieider from the Italian league. He was also coming into his prime. He also cost almost 10x more than Roy Keane did. He was also an international for one of the best countries in the world.

Sir Alex also played him out of position.

Guess what? He flopped. You already know his name.

I never doubt Sir Alex's judgment on transfers. Never. This is the first time in my entire life I have done so.

Who am I to argue? I'm a United fan who thinks history may be repeating itself 10 years on. Only this time we don't have Roy Keane, Paul Shcoles and Nicky Butt to fall back on.

Now now ladies!

Yes we need a creative mid
The money is their if fergie wants it

We are all entitled to our opion but everyone must agree on one thing.......we know nothing about footie compared to fergie and whatever decision he makes will always be the right one (except the odd one) but over 25 years he is proven time and time again he he is the man.

Behind the manager and the boys 100% no matter what.

I agree we need a serious playmaker but another striker of high quality like mirko could really take a lot of pressure of Rooney and Chicha

Bill McNeal I completely agree with u.I m sick of daft buggers(likes of true red ).keep it up and keep um quite.I suspect true red is a shiity or foolpoole fan.

I knew you'd be a smart ar$e and come back with the old 'Mexico isn't in South America' chat so well done for being predictable.

My point is just because something didn't work out with one player 10 years ago, it doesn't mean signing a guy 'from an italian clib, blah, blah, blah...' will mean Wesley is a flop now. Yes there are lessons to be learnt but they are two completey different players. For a start Sneijder has come from the dutch league which traditionally churns out players who have done well in the Premiership.

Jesus man, you're like a dog with a bone.

Of course you have the right to think Sneijder will flop, just as I have the right to think he'd be a fabulous and much needed signing. And I'll say it again, if SAF thinks Wesley is the man for our midfield then that's good enough for me and a lot of others. Sadly not for you but that's your choice.

Now leave it man. Christ almighty.

What's the point arguing here? Let the man do his job. We all know we need a world class CM, but if we cannot get the man, then we should just move on and give the young ones a chance. Thats it.

Fergie is probably 1 of the best Manager in football history, and I'm sure he don't want to tarnish that reputation by screwing up this season. He said he want to build up 1 more world class team before retirement. Hence, if we love United, then lets just continue our support!

I think the 3 signings we've made, should not be a flop, and De Gea will be a great keeper...for 10 yrs...maybe even 20 yrs... and then when we look back, we all will appreciate the effort made by SAF today.

Lets hope we will get the man we want, and the young ones will step up soon..

Glory Glory Man United!

You really don't give up do you.

Should I now go through ruud, stam, gullit, van der sar, van der vaart... Again you are missing the point that players brought up in the Dutch league have a better track record in the prem than the south Americans and therefore is it not conceivable that Wes might make a better go of it than Veron? You're very stubborn on the matter I'll give you that.

And please don't be so patronising and pedantic about me saying Mexico was in South America. You knew exactly the point I was trying to make but glossed over it to suit your argument.

You're like the kid at school who has to be right about everything.

Ooijer, Kuyt, Melchiot and Salcido were all successes. WTF is McNeal talking about?

You could list flops from any country. It proves nothing. Sneijder isn't even coming straight from the Dutch league! It's the most spazzy argument I've ever heard!

Churned out players that haven't been successful? What about van Nistelrooy, Park Ji Sung, Van Der Sar, De Goey, Overmars, Bergkamp, Kanu, Stam, Van Persie, Kuyt, Ooijer, Emerton, Pienaar, Heitinga, Alex, Kalou, Gullit, Van der Vaart, Muhren, Davids, van Hooijdonk, Suarez, Hyypia, Hasselbaink, Robben, Boateng, etc, etc, etc?

Re: @bill - Says it all you have to go back 16 years to pick Ruud Gullit, and 12 years to pick Jaap Stam. Not many inbetween then and now are there?

South Americans midfielders in the Premiership... can think of Juninho, Anderson, Kleberson, Riveros, Jonas Gutierrez, Nolberto Solano, Clarence Acuna, Marcelinho, Emerson, Denilson, Lucas Leiva, Diego Gavilan, Javier Mascherano, Elano, Deco, Ramires, Gilberto Silva, Gus Poyet, Antonio Valencia, Edu, Mark Gonzales, Fabio Rochemback, Geovanni, Chucho Benitez...

Fair to say there's just as many flops as success stories in that lot.

I know the point you were trying to make when you said Mexico is in South America? No, I just presumed your geographical knowledge wasn't all that and pointed out your mistake.

And because I can back up my argument, it means I'm like a child? Please, do not attempt the psychiatrist malarkey ever again.


Re: Clarky - Ooijer was a donkey during his time at Blackburn. Dirk Kuyt underachieved as a striker, his favoured position at Feyenoord. Melchiot was not good enough for Chelsea and failed at Birmingham. Salcido is soo good, he's being shipped out from Fulham after 1 year and a meagre 26 appearances.

Try naming a few more players this millennium please.

To be fair though, what's the point? You've tried to argue Pierre van Hooijdonk was a success! That's got to be the funniest thing I've ever read in relation to Nottingham Forest!

"It's the most spazzy argument I've ever heard!" - You should probably direct that comment at somebody else.

Most of the players I listed played THIS MILLENNIUM you silly prick.

What exactly is your argument? You sound stark raving mad.

Re: Clarky. Very sound argument that, calling somebody a prick.

Of the players you named, 11 of 26 were bought last millennium. Hence me saying what I said.

Still can't stop laughing that you think Pierre van Hooijdonk was a success! You killed any credibility your argument ever had!

And then you claim to not even know my argument! Showcasing your complete lack of reading ability.


Re: @Bill. I need anger management because I can continuously back up my argument? Good stuff.

Rene Meulensteen? He also said Maarten Stekelenburg should be signed. He's blatantly biased towards Dutch players.

When did David Beckham and Paul Scholes play with or against him? Must have missed that one...

Van Marwijk? What do you expect him to say? "No, he shouldn't challenge himself in a new country, he should stay in his comfort zone" or maybe "No, he isn't good enough for Manchester United". How about the classic "only God knows the future"?

Can YOU argue how Wesley Sneijder would be perfect for our midfield, as I was asking in the first place, using your insight into footballing tactics? Or are you going to spout how David Beckham once said "Aaaaaaarm. Yeah he's good in't he", then say some buzz phrases like "he'd improve our midfield" and "he's world class", before finally telling me Honduras is a South American country?

I'm not arguing that they know less than me though am I? I'm arguing that what you wrote was either misleading (quoting Dutchman Rene Meulensteen and Dutchman Bert van Marwijk) or factually incorrect i.e. Beckham and Scholes have never played against or with Wesley Sneijder.

If you would engage your brain for once, this would easily be deductible!

So, I'll ask YET AGAIN! What's this, the 5th time of asking?

Can YOU argue how Wesley Sneijder would be perfect for our midfield, as I was asking in the first place, using your insight into footballing tactics? Or are you going to spout how David Beckham once said "Aaaaaaarm. Yeah he's good in't he", then say some buzz phrases like "he'd improve our midfield" and "he's world class", before finally telling me Honduras is a South American country?

i don't mean to urinate on anyone's chips but:

1 - Becks, Scholes have never played with or vs Wesley as far as I know

2 - Wesley did win the Uefa midfielder of the year award in 2010 which suggests to me that he most definitely is a midfielder. FIFA think so too according to his second runner up ranking in their vote for best midfielders.

3 - Latin America was the term @bill should have used. That would encompass all of those places you two are on about and would have preventing all this bloody bickering.

Bill McNutjob

@bill

Here is a direct quote from you. "but you told me he's not a midfielder."

Me saying he isn't a CENTRE midfielder does not equate to me saying he isn't a midfielder. Use your brain for god sake. For the last time, I said he isn't a CENTRE midfielder. The key word being highlighted via 6 capital letters. Jesus christ...

@Bill

A centre midfielder is somebody who sits in the middle of the park, and goes forward to assist in attack and drops back to assist in defence e.g. Paul Scholes, Anderson.

An attacking midfielder is somebody given the freedom to stay up top and let others do the defensive work. This is known in this country as playing in the hole, and the lesser known word for this role is trequartista. e.g. Wesley Sneijder.


So, if Wesley Sneijder is an attacking midfielder, what does this mean? Does this mean he is a cetnre midfielder? No it doesn't!

This is all very basic football tactical knowledge and you have shown your failure to understand it.



No anger here whatsoever. More an annoyance at how ignorant you have proven yourself to be time and time and time and time again. Let's not forget your continuously failed tactic of making things up that haven't been said at any point in some warped attempt to make me look stupid.

I suggest you get help. And by help, I mean help with your complete lack of football knowledge.

P.S. I already told you to stop with the psychiatrist malarkey. You look like an absolute numpty.

Yes, he's an attacking midfielder. Not a centre midfield As I just explained to you in some very simple words. There's a difference between a centre mid and an attacking mid, and if you are unable to understand it, I don't know what to do.

I'll repeat what I said to help you. READ WHAT I SAY, OK?!


A centre midfielder is somebody who sits in the middle of the park, and goes forward to assist in attack and drops back to assist in defence

An attacking midfielder is somebody given the freedom to stay up top and let others do the defensive work. This is known in this country as playing in the hole, and the lesser known word for this role is trequartista.

Spot the difference?

"I think he's an attacking central midfielder as opposed to someone like Nani who's an attacking left/right midfielder."

We aren't talking about wingers though.

There are multiple types of wingers, just as their are multiple types of centre midfielders, multiple types of striker etcetera... but this whole thing was about there being a difference between a centre midfielder and a trequartista.

And after ALL that, you're now saying you want us to play Sneijder as a trequartista like he does for Internazionale and Netherlands as opposed to your initial stance of wanting him brought in as a centre midfield. Good to show you have passively admitted you were wrong.


I'll still disagree though, I don't think the diamond formation (which is what I'm guessing you're proposing we use) doesn't work anymore, and would absolutely bomb against any team that plays 3 in the middle. Unless we developed a system which involved playing 3 at the back to pack the midfield. Which would be a massive risk.

Rooney is already highly adept in the role you're proposing we buy Sneijder for, and also does his share of the dirty work. He has loads of experience of the league to boot.

So, spend £35m on a bigger prima-donna than Rooney, use a whole new system which is past it's sell by date, and also not utilise Anderson or Cleverley (and even Morrison and Pogba to a lesser extent), who are being touted for the top (seemingly in spite of a lack of a new signing rather than a true reflection of their potential, especially with Cleverley).

"I haven't admitted I'm wrong whether that be passively or not." - You changed your stance from him being brought in as a centre midfielder to him being brought in as an attacking midfielder, after I schooled you on some basic tactics. Ergo, you passively admitted your mistake.


"I have always said I think he can be a success in our midfield playing with fletcher. That has nothing to do with him playing in rooney's role." - Except it has everything to do with him playing in Rooney's role, seeing as that is the role he plays. Where Rooney plays...


"Again, I'd be with Fergie on this one rather than you I'm afraid." - For this, I read, 'I don't know anything about football tactics so I'll just trust Sir Alex'. If you had said that a long, long, long, long time ago, this hoo hah wouldn't have carried on.


"But people do have different opinions sometimes and hopefully experiences like this will help you recognise that." - And sometimes, people don't have a clue about football (i.e. you). Hopefully, experiences like this help you understand basic footballing tactics and thus you won't come across as completely naïve in the future.


No idea what you're on about when you say "winner" and "loser". I thought this was a debate, not a competition.

I'm with Billy on this one. Sneijder is an attacking centre midfielder.

Oh, hang on a second...

I think the problem Billy mc is that you are not making a distinction between whether he plays left, right or centre. Just as a defender is not just a defender, he's a left back, a right back or a centre back, an attacking midfielder has to be left, right or central. I think that's where the point about Nani came in. Players can be a mixture but they have to be at least one, right left or centre. Nani is right or left (otherwise known as a winger). Sneijder is central. You would not play Sneijder right or left and you wouldn't put Nani through the middle. They are both attacking midfielders though, distinguished by the right, left, centre thing.

One of you thinks he has to play as the trequarista or whatever it's called whilst the other thinks he can play 10 yards further back. It's funny how this word seems to have found it's way into the footballing vocab. Rooney can play that very effectively but he's a forward not an attacking midfielder so it's a blurry line really. Whatever happens I think the two of them in that central area of the pitch feeding off one another would be dynamite! Oh I can dream!

Anyway, your slanging match is quite entertaining so be my guest.

How predictable. Rather disappointing actually.

I thought you were better than that Billy Boy.

Yup ACM :)

Give it a rest you plonker.

Yet more dross from the village idiot.

Keep em coming soft lad!

I am not @bill. But sneidjer IS an ACM!

It's there! Fooooouuuuur! (to quote Martin Tyler as Andrei Arshavin smashed in his 4th at Anfield in a classic game)

LOL at you trying to insult me as a clown, when you have proven yourself to be an absolute moron time and time again. Coming from you, I'll take it as a compliment!

Can you do a Berbatov/Cole and make it 5? You'd get better odds on a team from Glasgow winning the SPL!

Hilarious! I don't even need to try and you can't help yourself but to comment! That's 5 comments now that you've posted since claiming you wouldn't post anymore!

Are you going to be entering the Numbskull Olympics?

bill mcneal wat a goose

Speaking in Manchester, Cantona told the media: "Wes Sneijder is one of the best, he will be great for the team. Sneijder is an excellent player. He is what Manchester United needs. There's no-one like him right now."

You mug.